tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6705638937146105675.post1800195634974440772..comments2024-02-25T13:32:36.366+01:00Comments on Michael Lorenz: New Light on Mauro Giuliani's Vienna YearsMichael Lorenzhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04248014539227254368noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6705638937146105675.post-67826614914519377382015-05-26T09:03:58.193+02:002015-05-26T09:03:58.193+02:00I am sorry to hear about the erroneous 1820 death ...I am sorry to hear about the erroneous 1820 death date for Giuliani. My original Giulani, Mauro article for MGG, accepted in 2002, has the correct date, 8. Mai 1829. A typographical error evidently occurred in the new MGG. T. Hecknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6705638937146105675.post-62454843945441767342015-05-14T13:20:29.703+02:002015-05-14T13:20:29.703+02:00Guten Tag Herr Dr. Lorenz,
Ihr Artikel ist bemerk...Guten Tag Herr Dr. Lorenz,<br /><br />Ihr Artikel ist bemerkenswert und hat das Bild von Hartmann über Hess total geändert. Sie haben äußerst fundiert gearbeitet. Seit fast 10 Jahren arbeite ich an der Erforschung der einzelnen Mikroschnitzer dieser Zeit. Unglaublich dass Sie ein Bild haben von Hess. Ich selbst habe eine Datenbank dieser Mikroschnitzeraufgebaut und über 600 Mikrobilder gefunden unterschiedlicher Qualitäten. Würde gerne mehr über Ihre Recherche erfahren, welche Institutionen und Archive Sie benutzt haben. Hierzu würde ich auch nach Wien kommen.<br /><br />Über eine Antwort würde ich mich freuen.<br /><br />MFG R. K. Druck 0049-1522 5709000 arte@gmx.net oder I.M.I@gmx.de (International Micro Carving Institute e.V.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6705638937146105675.post-18823310064130120072015-04-26T22:36:40.303+02:002015-04-26T22:36:40.303+02:00No one has that right. I realize it may be unpleas...No one has that right. I realize it may be unpleasant to see corrections to one's previous writings but when it is a matter of setting the record straight, by publishing the contents of documents that were recently found. but have survived in archives for over two centuries, there are no "issues of scholarly etiquette".Matanyaohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01053251025948663544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6705638937146105675.post-51380207863619645412015-04-23T11:41:00.750+02:002015-04-23T11:41:00.750+02:00According to Heck's Giuliani article in vol. 7...According to Heck's Giuliani article in vol. 7 of the new MGG, Giuliani died on "8. Mai 1820". Heck has absolutely no right to ask for "scholarly etiquette".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6705638937146105675.post-79448998630098925472015-04-20T12:03:56.472+02:002015-04-20T12:03:56.472+02:00Aloisia Willmuth died of malignant pneumonia at Wi...Aloisia Willmuth died of malignant pneumonia at Wieden 427 (today Schleifmühlgasse 13) in the care of Helena Lichtenstein, widow of an I. & R. cashier (A-Wsa, TBP 133, W, fol. 9v).Michael Lorenzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04248014539227254368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6705638937146105675.post-65289545495186102432015-04-19T18:48:51.252+02:002015-04-19T18:48:51.252+02:00I am wondering where Anna Wiesenberger lived in t...I am wondering where Anna Wiesenberger lived in those years. At least for Giuliani we know it partially. Concert announcements in the Wiener Zeitung disclose two of his living addresses. In April 1810 he lived at Singerstrasse 947 (the Domherrenhof; today Singerstrasse 22; Joh. Georg Albrechtsberger died there in 1809) and in May 1811 he lived at Bognergasse 337/338 (today at the corner Bognergasse 1). See my article in "Il Fronimo No. 169, Jan. 2015".<br />Gerhard PennAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6705638937146105675.post-38939882478872078562015-04-19T14:51:46.138+02:002015-04-19T14:51:46.138+02:00The correct shelfmark of the entry concerning Aloy...The correct shelfmark of the entry concerning Aloysia Willmuth's death is Pfarre St. Karl, Tom. 3, fol. 297. She seems to have died in foster care.Michael Lorenzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04248014539227254368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6705638937146105675.post-19465741623523918112015-04-19T11:24:16.851+02:002015-04-19T11:24:16.851+02:00Aloysia Victoria Maria Willmuth was born on 13 Aug...Aloysia Victoria Maria Willmuth was born on 13 August 1810 at Wieden 427 and baptized at St. Karl (Tom 5, fol. 157). She also seems to have been a daughter of Giuliani and Anna Wiesenberger, because Anna's sister Maria Wiesenberger was her godmother. Research is always making progress!Michael Lorenzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04248014539227254368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6705638937146105675.post-25220249799983596442015-04-19T10:39:02.508+02:002015-04-19T10:39:02.508+02:00Interestingly, an orphan Aloysia Willmuth died on ...Interestingly, an orphan Aloysia Willmuth died on February 20th,1812 in Wieden No. 427 at an age of 1½ years. The entry (Wien, Pfarre Wieden, Tom 03-06, Fol. 27) reads as: Willmuth Aloysa [sic] Elternlose / Waise.<br />Sofar I could not locate a birth entry of this child. Whether this name is again an invention of Theresia Bernegger (who died on June 30th, 1811) and/or this child has anything to do with Anna Wiesenberger and Mauro Giuliani requires more archival search which has to be done.<br />Gerhard Penn<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6705638937146105675.post-35562832550956297332015-04-13T11:30:12.484+02:002015-04-13T11:30:12.484+02:00"I was doing this research (1968-69), Vienna’..."I was doing this research (1968-69), Vienna’s archives were nothing like what they are today." Pardon me, but this is not an argument. The archives were even better back then, because the staff was much more educated and more competent. Nothing has improved since then in this regard and to really find things is much more difficult today. All the printed archival means that exist today, already existed back in 1968-69. I didn't look for Giuliani material at all. Since December 2014 I have been systematically browsing the municipal "Waisensachen", beginning with the year 1783. Time and routine are needed to find things, the "situation in Vienna's archives" has nothing to to with it. I don't really want to address the quality of your pioneering Giuliani book in more detail. Let me just say that I paid good money for the Kindle Edition, only to realize that between 1970 and 2012 you hadn't been willing to correct at least the old typos (not to mention all the other mistakes) and to synchronize the footnotes with the updated text and vice versa. I have the right as a customer to say this, etiquette has nothing to do with it.<br />MLMichael Lorenzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04248014539227254368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6705638937146105675.post-72636751038243356812015-04-13T07:55:51.012+02:002015-04-13T07:55:51.012+02:00In the foreword to my 1995 book, 'Mauro Giulia...In the foreword to my 1995 book, 'Mauro Giuliani: Virtuoso Guitarist and Composer,' I made the following observation: “It is certain, however, that despite my own best efforts and those of many other researchers here and abroad to date, there will be new discoveries which will correct or refine many statements and suggestions made in this book. The ‘garden of Giuliani research’ still has troublesome bare spots, and the weeds—the tangles of error and misinformation—we shall surely have with us always. Let these new insights come then, with good grace if possible, but let them come!”<br /> Michael Lorenz’s blog post, “New Light on Mauro Giuliani’s Vienna Years,” fulfills this very wish of my mine. Honest scholars can do nothing but greet well-documented corrections of older “error and misinformation” with joy. <br /> I would have appreciated a more generous measure of “good grace” in the various corrections posted by Dr Lorenz to what I wrote over 45 years ago. After all, when I was doing this research (1968-69), Vienna’s archives were nothing like what they are today. Issues of scholarly etiquette aside, it is great to have all this new archival information at hand and available for review. The guitar history community is fortunate to have scholars of the calibre of Gerhard Penn and Michael Lorenz currently working in the “garden of Giuliani research.” <br /> Will theirs be the last word? . . . Time will tell. . .<br />-- Thomas HeckAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com